FAQ/Technical Information 

This technical information section of the website is being developed to help answer common questions regarding the installation of your subs in your box and to aid in the wiring to get the best performance from your system.  This section can also be used as a guide to help you select your electronic gear to ensure that your system performs properly and meets or exceeds your expectations. We have been getting so many questions on these topics that we decided to post it all on the website rather than writing it out in dozens of e-mails each day.  This will save us time, so we can concentrate on building your order instead of typing on a keyboard.  If there is something you don't see or think would be helpful for others, please notify us at techinfo@subthump.com

General Info/FAQ    
System Selection and Box Design (A Must Read)
How do I wire my subs?
How do I choose an amp?
  
Understanding 2ohm vs. 4ohm subs?
What kind of screws do I use to mount my sub?
Do I need to seal my sub to the box?
What is a sub's Mounting Depth?
What is a sub's Mounting Diameter?
What is a sub's Magnet Diameter?
What gauge of speaker wire do I need?
Do I need Polyfil in my box?

   
     
     

System Selection and Box Design

If you are in the market for a new sub setup in your vehicle, there are several important things to consider before you head out to buy your speakers and amps.  Vehicles these days are getting harder and harder to fit boxes into.  Meaning smaller and smaller subs must be used in order to fit.  

Therefore, here is the correct sequence you should follow for selecting your equipment.

1.  Find a sub box that you like that is made for your vehicle.  Pay close attention to the air space and mounting depth specs.
2.  Then, select a woofer that will work within that enclosure.  Not only the depth, but also the available volume.  

The incorrect sequence is:
1.  Go buy two mega subwoofers that are 10" deep. 
2.  And then look around to find a box that will not only fit the vehicle, but is large enough for the sub to fit in too.  We have seen this mistake made over and over again.  You are not going to fit two JL 12w7s under your seat.  

We like to be as practical as possible  If we don't think it will work out, we will not do it.  Just because it's a box, doesn't mean 12" subs will work well.  If you don't see a particular box listed that fits 12" subs then there is a good reason for it.  Either we don't think it's practical to do so, or the box physically will not fit them.  Some of our boxes are only 11" wide on the mounting surface.  So there is no way it can fit 12s or 15s. 
We also don't like getting asked daily if this speaker will fit this box or if that speaker will fit that box.  There are upteen billion speakers out there are we are not experts on them.  We very rarely come into actual contact with speaker brands that we don't carry.  We are a manufacturer, not a stereo install shop.  Specs for each of our boxes is  posted.  If the depth of the box is listed at 5.5" and your sub is 5.75", you should be able to figure that out.  Again, please refer to the 'correct' sequence as listed above.  If you obey this rule, you will never run into problems.  If you want our suggestions, we will be thrilled to set you up something that WILL fit.  Simply ask us.

 

How do I wire my subs?

There are two types of subwoofers.  Single voice coil and dual voice coil.  The main reasons that manufacturers have gone to building dual voice coil (DVC) subs is mainly for the increase power handling and the added flexibility of your wiring options.  Many subs also come in more than one impedances.  Typical impedances for subs are 2ohm and 4ohm.  There are also 3ohm and 8ohm subs on the market, but are not as common.  In addition, there are also 2ohm DVC and 4Ohm DVC.  A common question I get asked is which one is better.  Well, neither is better.  But you need to select the right one for your situation.  To understand this, you need be a little informed on series vs. parallel wiring and impedances.  

Series wiring works exactly like putting batteries in a flashlight.  Say your flashlight calls for two "AA" batteries (which are rated at 1.5volts each)  When you load the first battery, the top or + terminal touches the bulb.  When you add the second battery, the top or + terminal of this battery touches the bottom or - terminal of the first battery.  The - of the second batter completes the circuit when the switch is on of course.  The important point is that total system voltage is 3.0 volts.  With series, you add 1.5+1.5=3

Same way with impedences when wired in series -- you combine them.  If you have a single 4ohm DVC sub.  You can wire the coils in series which will give you a final impedence of 8ohms. 
 

Likewise, if you have a 2ohm DVC sub wired in series, you get 4ohms. 

Parallel wiring works differently.  When you wire in parallel, the impedance values are divided by the number of connections in the circuit.  So if you have a single 2ohm DVC sub and you wire the coils in parallel, you get 1ohm. ( 2/2=1).  

Remember, many amps are not 1ohm stable so you may want to either wire differently or select the 4ohm version.  

A single 4ohm DVC sub wired in parallel will give you a 2ohm load (4/2=2). 

Series/Parallel wiring
Series/Parallel is simply a combination of both types of wiring described above.  This only applies when you are using more than one woofer.  The series part refers to how you wire the coils on each woofer.  For example, if you have two 4ohm DVC subs, you would wire the coils of each sub in series.  This results in two 8ohm "units".  Then those are wired together in parallel, which cuts the impedence in half or back to 4ohms.   This works well in cases where you have 2 channel amp running in "bridged" mode.

If your subs are 2ohm DVC, you would wire the coils of each sub in series, making two 4ohm "units".  These would then be wired in parallel, resulting in a final 2ohm impedance.
 

Parallel/Parallel wiring
This also only applies when using more than one woofer.  The coils on each sub are wired in parallel, and then the subs are linked together in parallel.  For example, if you have two 4ohm DVC subs, you would wire the coils in parallel.  This results in two 2ohm "units".  Those are then wired in parallel to make a final 1ohm impedance.  Remember that many amps are not 1ohm stable.  If your amp is bridged, you should not run a load less than 4ohms. 


Likewise, if your subs were 2ohm DVC subs, you could wire the coils of each sub in parallel, and then wire the subs together in parallel, and this would result in a final .5ohm load.


To show the options for your particular setup, try this

It's easy to see why it's always best to plan out your system rather than buying a selection of mismatched equipment or trying to use something that is not suited for the application.  In order to plan your system you should know how many subs you plan to run, how you plan to wire them, and what kind of amp you need (1 channel or 2 channel).  For instance, if you only plan to run a single 10" woofer, you may be better off to purchase a monoblock amp instead of 2 channel amp.  But a mono amp in many cases is perfect for running two or more subs as long as the final impedance is not lower than the manufacturer of the amp recommends.  That leads us to our next section.

How do I choose an amp?
In order to choose the best amp for your situation, you need to know how many subs you are going to run.  The power ratings for the subs will give you a good idea of how much power you need from an amp.  But as you've learned, your system plan will also help you decide.  Many amps on the market put out a lot more power if they are wired in bridged mode or wired to push 2ohm loads instead of 4ohm loads.  Think of this as a goal that you need to achieve.  Try to figure out what subs, how many subs, and what wiring scheme (series, parallel, series/parallel, parallel/parallel) will result in your amp making the most power.  For example.  If you have a mono amp that's rated 600 watts RMS at 4ohms and 1200 watts at 2ohms.  It only make sense to get the circuit to 2ohms.  Doing so will result in the most power going to your subs giving you  maximum slam.  For a better understanding of this, find out more about Ohms Law.  You can also test it out for yourself by using this

Example

Say you're powering a 500watt RMS sub.  You should select an amp that puts out approximately 500watts RMS (not peak or max).  If you have two 500watt RMS subs, then you will need twice the power or roughly 1,000watts RMS.  An amp can have a little more or less power than a sub is rated for and still be effective.   

What kind of screws do I need to mount my sub?
I get asked all the time what kind of screws to use to mount subs with.  The easy way is to grab some wood screws or drywall screws you have lying on the workbench.  The only problem with that is that the heads on those types of screws will pop off very easily.  Either by over torquing or just normal wear and tear.  In addition, if one of the heads twists off, you'll have to rotate the sub in order to get a screw in that hole.  Having your sub positioned as such may look odd.  Instead, I recommend a nice Pan head screw.  Preferably black if you can find them (or paint them).  They look something like this   Pick a size that is meaty enough to do the job and long enough to go all the way thru the mounting surface of the enclosure.  Usually, a 1" or 1-1/4" is plenty long.  The screw shown is a phillips head.  However, for added security, you may wish to go with a hex style.  That way, if your box is mounted to the car, a thief wouldn't be able to get the sub uninstalled easily.  

Do I need to seal my sub to the box?

If your box is carpeted, vinyl'd or if your sub has a foam backer, then most likely you will not need to seal it--unless you experience an air leak.  But typically, if the screws are tight enough, you will not have any leaks.  Some subs come with a foam or rubber gasket material with them.  It won't hurt anything to go ahead and use this.  It's most needed for those plastic boxes or plain wood, fiberglass, painted, or plexiglass boxes.  

What is a sub's Mounting Depth?
Mounting depth is simply how deep the sub is, measured from the surface where it mounts to the enclosure to the very bottom of the magnet.  See diagram below.

What is a sub's Mounting Diameter?
Mounting diameter is simply the size of hole needed in an enclosure that the sub will drop into.  See diagram below.  Mounting diameters very from sub to sub. Most subs will fit fine in what we call the industry "standard" size holes.  Many pre-fab boxes have these size holes--since they are built ahead and stock-piled.  They are made to fit the majority of subs.  But if your sub happens to have a smaller or larger mounting diameter (beyond the usual tolerance), then you may experience troubles like having to enlarge the holes or your screws not hitting wood on both sides. 

On many of our custom boxes (especially camaro and corvette), we "custom" cut our speaker holes to suit your subs, we can help you avoid any problems so long as we know what the "mounting diameter" of your sub is.  We know this spec for a lot of subs, but we don't claim to know them all and that's where you can help.  It should be located either in your owner's manual or on the on-line tech guide for your woofer.  We feel that since you are having a "custom" box built for you, why not make sure the holes will fit your speakers properly.  

What is a sub's Magnet Diameter?
Magnet diameter is simply that.  The diameter of the magnet structure of the sub.  Or the distance across the magnet.  Preferably in the very back since that point often comes into play.  See diagram below.  Many custom-fit boxes are built to fit into tiny places in vehicles.  Either in a corner compartment or under a seat or even behind a seat.  They often have slanted fronts or slanted backs.  Therefore, it's easy to see that when you put a woofer in a box like this, those brands with huge magnets and deep depths are not going to fit.  Many times, it's a combination of how deep the sub is, along with how big the magnet is, which determines whether a sub will fit in a particular enclosure.  Many manufacturers don't advertise the magnet diameter.  You may have to call and get that information.  

What gauge of speaker wire do I need?
For small component speakers and tweets, 18 ga. is fine.  For wiring subs, 12 ga. or larger is recommended

Do I need Polyfil in my box?
Polyfil is a subjective application.  If you try it and you think it helps, then use it.  We have tried it before and can never tell any difference.  So to us, it's not worth messing with.   If your sub requires more volume then the enclosure can offer, then it's far more advantageous to look for a woofer that is made for smaller boxes.  We offer some excellent woofers that sound amazing in small sealed enclosures.  They will sound much better than cramming a woofer that needs a larger volume into a small enclosure.

 

 

How do I add an amp to my stock system?
Simple.  All you need is a Pac OEM Output converter and the correct wiring harness for your vehicle year.  This unit is a simple plug & play device that gives you a RCA outputs to run to your amp and also a remote turn-on lead for your amp and will not disrupt function of the rest of your stock system.  You just plug it in-line between your factory head unit and the rest of your stock system.  We have all the kits available.  Simply ask and we can get one to you.  For further info on this subject, go here

Can I replace the radio in my factory system with an aftermarket one?
Absolutely.  If you just want to remove your stock head unit and replace it with a nice aftermarket deck, while keeping factory Bose or Monsoon system, there is an easy way to do it.  All you need is the Pac OEM output converter and two wiring harnesses.  One harness connects your new head unit to the OEM and the other harness connects the OEM to the rest of your stock system. You will also need an antenna adapter, a dash kit, and a wiring harness to connect to your stock harness.

Can I bypass my Bose/Monsoon altogether?
Similar to above except you have a couple options.   First, if you want to keep your stock deck and want better sound. Simply use an aftermarket amplifier and connect it to your Pac OEM.  We highly recommend installing new speakers since most factory systems use 2ohm speakers and most aftermarket amps are 4ohms per channel.  The second way is to go 100% aftermarket.  Starting with a new head unit, new door speakers (we recommend a nice 2-way component set) and sub (s).  

Can I add a CD changer to my stock radio?
Yes.  But for only for certain types of stock radios.  These will only work for 97-02 units and must have an auxiliary button.  We carry brands that fit these just like original equipment and use the factory radio buttons. Please contact us about these options.

How do I keep my steering wheel controls with my aftermarket head unit?
In order to do this, your new head unit must have infrared remote control sensors.  Then all you need is a Pac SWI-X unit. You can buy one here

How do I replace the factory speakers?
It is possible, you can put new speakers in, and they will work, but it is not recommended. The factory system uses mismatched impedances, that will cause the new speakers to not be as loud. In addition, the Monsoon amp adds a good bit of distortion, and the new speakers will not sound anywhere near as good as they should. At best, it is a barely noticeable improvement over stock. The easiest thing to do is either add an aftermarket amp.  That way, you have the ability to upgrade to a 2-way component system.  You can also simply replace the factory radio with an aftermarket radio and run some new speakers off your new deck.  

 


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